'I am really skinny, and when I was younger I was just skin and bones, you know? All the other skinny guys would like to put you in the guard, but when I was young Carlinhos told me, "If you just run away from the stand up fighting, no one will respect you, because it’s easy to be skinny and stay on top of the flexible guard; it’s better to stay on top of the guy and be aggressive and give them trouble." I tried to do this in training, to get on top and make the guy afraid of me, then my game was more on top than on bottom.'
